Ins and outs work no prob but no vst which is not a problem because i figured as much and can use midi out in fl. All of the other required software the studio manager and motif rack xs editor, plus the latest yamaha usb driver and the ai driver for cubase ai needed for. Roland fantom xr vs yamaha motif es rack if this is your first visit, be sure to check out the faq by clicking the link above. These new sounds for the yamaha motifrack xs synth are the result of over two years of programming by professional wind controller player sound designer matt traum. Help with yamaha motif xs rack vst integration with fl. This chip delivers maximum audio processing performance at a great price including an expressive stereo 4tone synthesis engine with 128voice polyphony. This utility clears out all roland usb windows drivers and. Innovative hybrid cajon with builtin electronic sounds. Karma motif software motif xf, xs, mox, moxf, rackxs, s70. I dont have much more space for keyboard, so im trying to go for the rack. Loadboxir universal audio ox vs boss waza tube amp expander vs selfmade.
I hate to endorse the point above about using software, cause i feel its malnourished in comparison, but for modern sounds. Roland fantom xr vs yamaha motif es rack future producers. The fantomx competes with the korg tritontriton extreme, the yamaha motif es. Orchestral modulesample player the unofficial access.
The roland fantom xr, korg m3m and motif rack all fit in here. The motif pianos have a sorrt of ep feel to them, and the fantom s strings are much better. Dec 15, 2007 id posted here a couple days ago about finding a new keyboard for our keyboard player. Only use this software with fantomx6,7,8, and xr units running version 2. Apr 01, 2012 karma motif software motif xf, xs, mox, moxf, rackxs, s70s90 xs. With the motif xs yamahas focus was primarily on sound quality vs. With the size of the investment you are about to make, spend as much time with both the motif xs and the new fantom series as you can. Roland fantom g, yamaha motif xf, roland integra 7 and korg kronos. The compact motif rack xs gives you an enormous selection of voices based on the popular, professionallevel motif xs, studiolevel effect processing, five realtime control knobs for tweaking 20 different parameters as you play, a wideranging library of convenient multipart presets, thousands of automatic arpeggios at your fingertips, and. The new motifrack xs is packed full of inspiring sounds, exciting rhythms and.
Only use this software with fantom x6,7,8, and xr units. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the faq by clicking the link above. Home the forums electronic music instruments and electronic music production synth selection dilemma fantom x vs motif es gearslutz is partsupported by our visitors. When compared to its rivals roland fantomx and korg. I want something with quick access to a drum beat without having to go into other modes and setting things up as it seems like it has to be done on the xs on the fantom x, just press 2 buttons, select a rhythm group, and press a pad and almost instant grooving right in patch mode.
This is the new editorlibrarian software for version 2 of the fantom. So many of the references are related to that forum. Id posted here a couple days ago about finding a new keyboard for our keyboard player. Produced in 2004, it offered many banks of high quality sounds, and a sampling option. The fantomx is a music workstationsynthesizer produced by roland corporation. If you have cubase, i would suggest getting a motif. I chose the rack for the cost difference and some of the features that differ from the the full keyboard versions. Rackmounted sound module holds up to six srx expansion boards but does not. I have to say though the motif sounds are good, the fantom s are better, especislly the pianos and strings. Download and install the yamaha usbmidi driver for your computer type launch cubase ai4.
Biab patch map for yamaha motifrack xs pg music forums. Midi snippet of a song i produced, playing in each of the 4 workstations. These new sounds for the yamaha motif rack xs synth are the result of over two years of programming by professional wind controller player sound designer matt traum. Spend some time working with the sequencers in both machines if you intend to create songs. Synth selection dilemma fantom x vs motif es gearslutz. The new motif rack xs is packed full of inspiring sounds, exciting rhythms and. The motif classic, motif es, and motif xs all came in 61, 76, and 88 key. I have abd the motif and the triton and the fantom and to me. I havent played the roland fantom series so i cant compare the two. The yamaha motif is a series of music workstation synthesizers, first released by yamaha corporation in august 2001. Newly added pc mode screen in conjunction with the addition of the sample editor, a pc mode screen has been added to the fantom xr. The motifrack xs editor vst, based on the vst3 technology by steinberg, works as a vst3 plugin with cubase series 4. Insert the pc card adapter see step 1 into the fantomxr.
Ein aktueller yamaha motif oder ein korg kronos sind hier kaum zu schlagen. Fantom x6 fantom x7 fantom x8 fantom xr fantom xa srx03 fantom s fantom s88. I dont think anyone can state the korg m3 or yamaha motif xs or roland fantom x has the best samples that statement is too simplistic. Lispirazione puo arrivare in qualsiasi momento, ma non e necessario aspettare che arrivi. When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. It has absolutely the best sound set out there imho. All the sounds were chosen to be the most basic and.
Integra7, digital synth racksound module from roland. Originally, this is intended for fantom s series, however it can be convert loaded to fantom x series by means of fantom x editor software. Preversion2 fantomxs can be upgraded via the fanxup1 audio. Support can also be found for yamaha products having a related karma motif software version, such as the yamaha motif xs, motif xf, mox, moxf s70s90 xs and rack xs. Confused to buy motif es or xs read this true story. These include voice and mixing parameters edited in the voice or multi mode of the motif rack xs such as volume, pan, eg, and cutoff and other settings. I want to be a composerarranger for kpop, so i was wondering what would be recommended for such sounds.
Like i said, no editor windows, ipad app not over, no software vendor either for mac os x 10. The xs did that for me and i bought it there and then. Inspiration can strike at any time, but theres no need to wait for it. It turns out we have less to spend than i thought, and it seems the best option is perhaps a used yamaha motif rack or motif es. Motif rack is a sound module with no keyboard that is controlled by.
I got a yamaha mofif xs rack and a roland fantom xr rack. One usb cable is all you need for midi integration between the motif rack xs and your computerbased music production system or daw. The roland fantom xr is the rack mount version of the fantom x synth sampler workstation. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. Motif es6 vs motif xs6 very detailed comparison keys. The motif replaced the ex series in yamahas lineup. Moxf8, electro 6d, xk1c, motif xsr, pekper, voyager, univox minikorg. They have been programmed specifically for the yamaha motifrack xs to exploit the amazing new expanded articulation capabilities of the motif rack xs. Other workstations in the same class are the korg kronos and the roland fantom g. When using the fantomxr, you will notice that a variety of patch modeplaying or creating different categories come into play when working with sounds.
That said, the fantom x is still very competitive with the xs, having many features the xs does not proper audio tracks, for starters. The motif xs editor standalone vst, based on the vst3 technology by steinberg, works as a vst3 plugin with cubase series. Yamaha owns steinberg and has taken steps to make motifs simplified for use with software sequencers, like cubase. The new motifrack xs is packed full of inspiring sounds, exciting rhythms and expressive control that spur your creativity to new heights any time, any place. The long awaited motifrack xs wind controller soundbanks from patchman. But thats another reason to buy the motif rack if it becomes an issue as far as cutting through in the mix. The motif xs editor standalone vst also works as the same way as other vst instrument software, allowing you to save the edited settings of the motif xs, or use them for another project. The also contains the sample convert software for use with s700 series sample libraries. The mox8 is the most powerful, mobile and affordable yamaha music workstation ever. The idea of a motif rack xs as internet don appeal to him, even in the german. The roland fantom xr is a rackmounted expandable digital sampler and synthesizer with up to 1gb of storage for sounds, based off of the popular fantom series workstation keyboards. Motifrack xs editor installation guide 3 motif rack xs editor is a convenient tool which lets you edit and save the various parameters of your motif rack xs tone generator. The yamaha motif xs is in the same bracket, sporting a colour display and a.
If you want hardware and 1u rack there will be the roland fantom xr and yamaha xs. People will give various opinions about different products. The motifrack xs editor vst also works as the same way as other vst instrument software, allowing you to save the edited settings of the motif rack xs, or use them for another project. The subject of this thread was motif xs owners rack or keyboard help please. Updating the fantomxr update procedure insert the fantomxr sample tools expansion kit compactflash card into the pc card adapter. Roland fantom x8 piano roland xv 5050 rack yamaha motif es. We explore the fantom xr rack module and ask if the v2 os and editing software provide the solutions. If money is not a matter, which one will you choose 5080 vs xr provide that i dont need any extra expansion. If you want the best roland sounds buy a jv108020803080 or an xv5080 and even a fantom xr rack as that will pretty much give you the best that roland has again the xs6 works well with all my gear and cuts through the mix in crisp. Roland fantom x6 1 roland fantom xr 1 roland juno106 1 roland soniccell 2 roland vk8 1 roland vk8m 3 roland w30 1 roland xp30 1 roland xp60 1 roland xv88 1 yamaha an1x 1 yamaha motif es6 1 yamaha motif xs6 2 yamaha motif rack 1 yamaha motif rack xs 1 yamaha mox6 1 yamaha s90es 1 yamaha tx802 1 yamaha dx7 1. I tried to post this thread today at, however i was unable to for some reason their forum submit is acting up. Like the fantom x keyboards, the fantom xr module is based on rolands powerful new sound generator chip.
Soniccell, fantom xr, motif xs rack or the keyboard version. The motifrack xs editor standalone vst also works as the same way as other vst instrument software, allowing you to save the edited settings of the motif rack xs, or use them for another project. The sounds of the original motif are great, and i am sure that the motif es will have even better sounds, but i could not figure that damn thing to save my life when i was checking it out at the music store. The fantom x is rolands bestever workstation, but it has suffered from one or two annoying omissions, such as the ability to import rolands own sample format. But i thought posting here might be informative as well to people thinking about buying a a motif xs6. Yamaha motif xs versus roland fantom g8 music player. Every single parameter of the fantom g can be adjusted via its software editor. Simply by installing extensions for steinberg daw and connecting the motifrack xs with mlan16e2 to your computer via an ieee94 cable, you can take advantage of various features which. Yamaha motif rack xs are still no match for whats available in software. Oct 31, 2008 the sound is clear that there conviennet compared to the music i make i make hiphops clear to her dismount me anyway i work with three references to hiphop the korg tr, the motif 6, and roland fantom xr, history of being at ease with my o nivo banks sound overall opinion. Im not saying it wont work, just that i couldnt make it work. I work mostly with komplete kontrol s2 and maschine for software. Got a motif xf a few years ago sold it because my memories of the es were rosecolored. If you wish to try the full total recall experience, but your daw software is not studio connections compatible, yamaha kindly bundle a copy of cubase ai with the rack xs.
The motifrack xs editor standalone vst, based on the vst3 technology by steinberg, works as a vst3 plugin with cubase daw application. The fantom x r rack has more sound patches out of the box, but i have been hearing reading online that the motif. The motifrack xs editor standalone vst also works as the same way as other vst instrument software, allowing you to save the edited settings of the motifrack xs, or use them for another project. Motifrack xs download sintetizzatori sintetizzatori. Would appreciate your insight or those of others who use the fantom xr.
Motif xs im about to purchase the rack for one of these but im thinking might as well get the xs but whats diffrent. In a world of software, the hardware synth module fights back. It was introduced in 2004 as an upgrade from the fantom s series. Roland fantom g, yamaha motif xf, roland integra 7 and korg. Please refer to readme documents for further details. Yamaha 155, yamaha motif rack xs with mlan, roland fantom xr, alesis vi61, behringer umc404hd, yamaha hs7, cubase 7. The compact motifrack xs gives you an enormous selection of voices based on the popular,professionallevel motif xs, studiolevel effect processing,five realtime. Yamaha motif xs6 and roland fantom x6 keys, synths. Il nuovo motifrack xs e ricco di suoni che ispirano, di ritmi accattivanti e. I had a yamaha motif xs briefly after my roland fantom xr was hit by lightning but i sadly must report i never got it going with biab.
The fantom xr rack is connected usb to my i7 laptop and i loaded the usb driver and fantom x editor. They have been programmed specifically for the yamaha motif rack xs to exploit the amazing new expanded articulation capabilities of the motif rack xs. Lets see pics of your piano room piano world piano. Theres nothing greater than having a boatload of sounds at your disposal. Well, the es rack has been sold, have to update the sig. For example, when using the yamaha motif xs rack, the sounds that i select using the motif editor are reflected automatically in the rb tracks and can be save with no further work. The original motif was the first keyboard i ruled out when i was comparing the motif, triton studio, and the fantom s. Simply set your software to recognize the motif rack xs port, and you have seamless, bidirectional communication for recording and playback. Lets line up a yamaha motif xf and a roland fa and listen to how the awm2 sound engine on the flagship yamaha compares to the supernatural engine used on rolands highend synthesizers. Comparing yamaha motif xs vs roland fantom vs triton.
Support can also be found for korg products incorporating karma, such as the korg kronos, korg oasys, korg m3, korg m50, korg karma, and korg triton series. I was planning to buy a motif xs but got an es so read to find out why hellor forum, im planning to buy a motif xs immediately and am little twohearted what to choose. Changes due to the upgraded editor software the included fantom x editor software has been upgraded, allowing you to use an editor program to edit samples and multisamples. Karma developer stephen kay has now made it possible for yamaha owners with a motif xf, xs, moxf, mox, rackxs or s70s90 xs. Motifrack xs extension is a set of program plugins and project templates developed by yamaha to enhance the functions of steinberg daw software. The motif xs editor standalone vst also works as the same way as other vst instrument software, allowing you to save the edited settings of the motif xs, or. Help with yamaha motif xs rack vst integration with fl studio. I have a triton rack, fantom xr and a motif esr and an alesis fusion because i wasnt really happy with any of them sure they all have some wonderful sounds in them, but for alot of the nonsynth sounds i use none of them can actually consistenly give me the sound character i want, so thinking of selling them all for the kurzweil. Page 33 overview of the fantomxr lfo low frequency oscillator wg wave generator use the lfo to create cyclic changes modulation in a sound. Fantom g vs motif xf vs integra 7 vs kronos youtube. Does roland plan to outdo the xs in the next generation of the fantom with features, sound quality, and legacy synth support. The fantom x r rack has more sound patches out of the box, but i have been hearing reading online that the motif es. The sound is clear that there conviennet compared to the music i make i make hiphops clear to her dismount me anyway i work with three references to hiphop the korg tr, the motif 6, and roland fantom xr, history of being at ease with my o nivo banks sound overall opinion. Put your headphones on and close your eyes does it speak to you as you play, does it take your hands and guide them for you and can you feel the synth showing you how to play.